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viernes, 3 de agosto de 2012

Phuket's Condo Mania Continues With 1027 Patong Units On Offer

PHUKET: Another huge condo development is planned that will add 1027 units to Patong. Resort managements are concerned that the number of condos now planned for Phuket will inevitably cut into occupancy rates.

The latest announcement comes from Phanason, a developer with a good record on Phuket. The formal launch of the project has yet to happen, but sources say orders have been placed for 50 units already.


The Park Condominiums are to be built over 17 rai on Patong's Nanai Road, with seven buildings each of seven storeys envisaged.

Phanason is seeking Environmental Impact Assessment and other approvals from Bangkok, where large projects on Phuket now have to meet all regulatory conditions.

The Park will contain six different types of units, beginning at 1.9 million baht for an apartment of 40 square metres. The development will incldue a swimming pool, a fitness centre and a dining area.

Once the project is approved, construction will be finished in two years - hopefully by 2014, Phanason believes.

Many of the most recent large condo projects on Phuket have been snapped up by investors hoping to make a profit but there are now so many projects that concerns are increasing about a condo ''bubble.''

Resort managements are also alarmed because the condo owners are likely to offer rents that will be competitive with three-star and four-star resorts. The three-star market on Phuket is already under pressure.

Patong Apartment Block in Clear Breach of Phuket Building Laws

Power line connection have been attatched directly to the Patong building By Prasit Tarnsirisin PHUKET: An apartment block in the Phuket west coast hub of Patong will probably have to be demolished because of breaches of the law, officials said yesterday.

An examination of the block, in a lane off Prabaramee Road, opposite the Kathu Mosque, confirmed the claims of neighbors that there was no setback.


The block was built abutting the roadway and posed a hazard for vehicles, the inspection group with Vice Governor Somkiet Sangkaosutthirak confirmed.

Because there was no space for power poles, electricity connections had been attached to the building. Construction material had to be mixed in the roadway.

The development is believed to have gone ahead after the sale of part of a property title within a family.

Neighbors told officials from the Department of Public Works and Town Planning that concrete from the construction frequently toppled onto their homes, damaging roofs.

Although yesterday was a regularion working day, there was no sign of activity on the building.

Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition.

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gravatar No setback?

And no ones noticed the building on the Rd between nanai and baanzaan market then. Not only not 'set back' it takes up half of the actual rd.

Posted by LivinLOS on July 19, 2012 08:58

gravatar Do they have Building Inspectors here or not? Normally someone has to sign their name saying "yes this is perfect" so they can build.

Posted by Tbs on July 19, 2012 09:50

gravatar I live in Alberta, Canada and I heard Patong, Phuket is the best place in the world to live. Is this true?

Posted by Mike on July 19, 2012 10:01

gravatar @LivinLOS:
Try to pass this location about 5 pm, you will be amazed.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 19, 2012 11:34

gravatar I hope they Set an Example by making them demo the building. Show people that doing the Wrong thing for a quick buck Won't be tolerated.

It would be good for the enforcement of corruption on Phuket they are speaking about.

Posted by John on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @Mike: Yes, if you are a sex tourist, No if you are a normal person.

Posted by Buster on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @LivingLOS: Thanks for raising that Nanai/Banzaan choke point. I have been on about this for as long as that ridiculous building has been there.

Tear that uncompleted, in-limbo nuisance-of-a-sucker down.

Posted by Dave on July 19, 2012 13:18

gravatar @ LivinLos Was'nt that building there before the road/road was widened? I assumed that it was similar to the situation as when they widened Vijit Rd and the guy that sold the plastic water and septic tanks would not accept the offer form the government to buy the land IFO his shop to widen the road. His property jutted out into the roadway for years. Very different emminent domain laws here apparently.

Posted by Joe on July 19, 2012 15:12

gravatar "Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition"....Sure. I wonder if it'll involve 'negotiations' with the owner, to come up with an amicable solution. LOL

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 15:48

gravatar @Fritz Pinguin. Try passing it on New Years Eve, and you'll be going nowhere :-)

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 17:18

gravatar I am not a sex tourist and it is the best place in the world for me Buster. If you do not like it you can leave at any time. Bye

Posted by Neil Bryan on July 19, 2012 18:20

gravatar Setback, distance to boundary lines, % built vs. green, we all know that these rules exist, but are difficult to enforce. Building permits should be signed off by Chartered / Professional Engineers who will lose their license if it is found that rules were overlooked. Then regular inspection by the building department during construction to confirm the permit is what's being built to.

Posted by GiantFan on July 19, 2012 20:33

gravatar @Joe:
No, before the road was widened the was two last "buildings" of a row of shacks. In one of them was a Karaoke bar. While these were still there, the other houses were built far enough off the old dirt road. Next step was to build the new road (leaving the shacks as they were). After the road was finished, the shacks were taken down and the new houses were built on the road area. Whoever issued the building permit (or turned blind eyes to the construction), he is the one who deserves a kick in the ...

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 20, 2012 13:25

gravatar Livinlos and Dave the place you are talking about is all private land and the road is not a city road so the owners can build all the way across it if their property goes that far.

Posted by mike on July 21, 2012 12:30

Patong Property Price Rises, Beachfront Resort Grows

PHUKET: The owner of the Phuket Graceland Resort and Spa has paid 300 million baht for a strip of property on Patong's beachfront.

New buildings on the real estate block have been demolished to make way for an enlargement of the resort.


The expansion will cost 50 million baht once complete and include an Irish bar on the ground floor, with a Thai restaurant above and an egg-shaped function room on top.

There were 18 units in the now-demolished properties, which had just been finished when a deal was done by the owners, Jee Teng, to sell them for 300 million baht to the resort.

The dimensions of the property and the deal indicate that the price of Patong land - especially on the beachfront, where values are among the highest on Phuket - continues to rise.

The recent addition of a Sunset Wing has taken the Phuket Graceland Resort and Spa to 600 units, set around four swimming pools, towards the northern perimeter of Patong beach.

sábado, 21 de julio de 2012

Patong Apartment Block in Clear Breach of Phuket Building Laws

Power line connection have been attatched directly to the Patong building By Prasit Tarnsirisin PHUKET: An apartment block in the Phuket west coast hub of Patong will probably have to be demolished because of breaches of the law, officials said yesterday.

An examination of the block, in a lane off Prabaramee Road, opposite the Kathu Mosque, confirmed the claims of neighbors that there was no setback.


The block was built abutting the roadway and posed a hazard for vehicles, the inspection group with Vice Governor Somkiet Sangkaosutthirak confirmed.

Because there was no space for power poles, electricity connections had been attached to the building. Construction material had to be mixed in the roadway.

The development is believed to have gone ahead after the sale of part of a property title within a family.

Neighbors told officials from the Department of Public Works and Town Planning that concrete from the construction frequently toppled onto their homes, damaging roofs.

Although yesterday was a regularion working day, there was no sign of activity on the building.

Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition.

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gravatar No setback?

And no ones noticed the building on the Rd between nanai and baanzaan market then. Not only not 'set back' it takes up half of the actual rd.

Posted by LivinLOS on July 19, 2012 08:58

gravatar Do they have Building Inspectors here or not? Normally someone has to sign their name saying "yes this is perfect" so they can build.

Posted by Tbs on July 19, 2012 09:50

gravatar I live in Alberta, Canada and I heard Patong, Phuket is the best place in the world to live. Is this true?

Posted by Mike on July 19, 2012 10:01

gravatar @LivinLOS:
Try to pass this location about 5 pm, you will be amazed.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 19, 2012 11:34

gravatar I hope they Set an Example by making them demo the building. Show people that doing the Wrong thing for a quick buck Won't be tolerated.

It would be good for the enforcement of corruption on Phuket they are speaking about.

Posted by John on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @Mike: Yes, if you are a sex tourist, No if you are a normal person.

Posted by Buster on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @LivingLOS: Thanks for raising that Nanai/Banzaan choke point. I have been on about this for as long as that ridiculous building has been there.

Tear that uncompleted, in-limbo nuisance-of-a-sucker down.

Posted by Dave on July 19, 2012 13:18

gravatar @ LivinLos Was'nt that building there before the road/road was widened? I assumed that it was similar to the situation as when they widened Vijit Rd and the guy that sold the plastic water and septic tanks would not accept the offer form the government to buy the land IFO his shop to widen the road. His property jutted out into the roadway for years. Very different emminent domain laws here apparently.

Posted by Joe on July 19, 2012 15:12

gravatar "Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition"....Sure. I wonder if it'll involve 'negotiations' with the owner, to come up with an amicable solution. LOL

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 15:48

gravatar @Fritz Pinguin. Try passing it on New Years Eve, and you'll be going nowhere :-)

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 17:18

gravatar I am not a sex tourist and it is the best place in the world for me Buster. If you do not like it you can leave at any time. Bye

Posted by Neil Bryan on July 19, 2012 18:20

gravatar Setback, distance to boundary lines, % built vs. green, we all know that these rules exist, but are difficult to enforce. Building permits should be signed off by Chartered / Professional Engineers who will lose their license if it is found that rules were overlooked. Then regular inspection by the building department during construction to confirm the permit is what's being built to.

Posted by GiantFan on July 19, 2012 20:33

gravatar @Joe:
No, before the road was widened the was two last "buildings" of a row of shacks. In one of them was a Karaoke bar. While these were still there, the other houses were built far enough off the old dirt road. Next step was to build the new road (leaving the shacks as they were). After the road was finished, the shacks were taken down and the new houses were built on the road area. Whoever issued the building permit (or turned blind eyes to the construction), he is the one who deserves a kick in the ...

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 20, 2012 13:25

viernes, 20 de julio de 2012

Patong Apartment Block in Clear Breach of Phuket Building Laws

Power line connection have been attatched directly to the Patong building By Prasit Tarnsirisin PHUKET: An apartment block in the Phuket west coast hub of Patong will probably have to be demolished because of breaches of the law, officials said yesterday.

An examination of the block, in a lane off Prabaramee Road, opposite the Kathu Mosque, confirmed the claims of neighbors that there was no setback.


The block was built abutting the roadway and posed a hazard for vehicles, the inspection group with Vice Governor Somkiet Sangkaosutthirak confirmed.

Because there was no space for power poles, electricity connections had been attached to the building. Construction material had to be mixed in the roadway.

The development is believed to have gone ahead after the sale of part of a property title within a family.

Neighbors told officials from the Department of Public Works and Town Planning that concrete from the construction frequently toppled onto their homes, damaging roofs.

Although yesterday was a regularion working day, there was no sign of activity on the building.

Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition.

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gravatar No setback?

And no ones noticed the building on the Rd between nanai and baanzaan market then. Not only not 'set back' it takes up half of the actual rd.

Posted by LivinLOS on July 19, 2012 08:58

gravatar Do they have Building Inspectors here or not? Normally someone has to sign their name saying "yes this is perfect" so they can build.

Posted by Tbs on July 19, 2012 09:50

gravatar I live in Alberta, Canada and I heard Patong, Phuket is the best place in the world to live. Is this true?

Posted by Mike on July 19, 2012 10:01

gravatar @LivinLOS:
Try to pass this location about 5 pm, you will be amazed.

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 19, 2012 11:34

gravatar I hope they Set an Example by making them demo the building. Show people that doing the Wrong thing for a quick buck Won't be tolerated.

It would be good for the enforcement of corruption on Phuket they are speaking about.

Posted by John on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @Mike: Yes, if you are a sex tourist, No if you are a normal person.

Posted by Buster on July 19, 2012 11:37

gravatar @LivingLOS: Thanks for raising that Nanai/Banzaan choke point. I have been on about this for as long as that ridiculous building has been there.

Tear that uncompleted, in-limbo nuisance-of-a-sucker down.

Posted by Dave on July 19, 2012 13:18

gravatar @ LivinLos Was'nt that building there before the road/road was widened? I assumed that it was similar to the situation as when they widened Vijit Rd and the guy that sold the plastic water and septic tanks would not accept the offer form the government to buy the land IFO his shop to widen the road. His property jutted out into the roadway for years. Very different emminent domain laws here apparently.

Posted by Joe on July 19, 2012 15:12

gravatar "Vice Governor Somkiet said he would await further advice before pursuing demolition"....Sure. I wonder if it'll involve 'negotiations' with the owner, to come up with an amicable solution. LOL

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 15:48

gravatar @Fritz Pinguin. Try passing it on New Years Eve, and you'll be going nowhere :-)

Posted by agogohome on July 19, 2012 17:18

gravatar I am not a sex tourist and it is the best place in the world for me Buster. If you do not like it you can leave at any time. Bye

Posted by Neil Bryan on July 19, 2012 18:20

gravatar Setback, distance to boundary lines, % built vs. green, we all know that these rules exist, but are difficult to enforce. Building permits should be signed off by Chartered / Professional Engineers who will lose their license if it is found that rules were overlooked. Then regular inspection by the building department during construction to confirm the permit is what's being built to.

Posted by GiantFan on July 19, 2012 20:33

gravatar @Joe:
No, before the road was widened the was two last "buildings" of a row of shacks. In one of them was a Karaoke bar. While these were still there, the other houses were built far enough off the old dirt road. Next step was to build the new road (leaving the shacks as they were). After the road was finished, the shacks were taken down and the new houses were built on the road area. Whoever issued the building permit (or turned blind eyes to the construction), he is the one who deserves a kick in the ...

Posted by Fritz Pinguin on July 20, 2012 13:25

Phuket Tourist Seriously Hurt in Patong Tuk-Tuk Tumble


The Australian who fell from a Phuket tuk-tuk has been transferred by air ambulance to Bumrungrad International Hospital in Bangkok for treatment for head injuries.
PHUKET: An Australian tourist who tumbled from a Phuket tuk-tuk in the holiday hub of Patong last night is in a coma and fighting for his life today.

Zachary Wade Noble, 30, was seriously injured when he chose to hang from the rear of the local form of public transport while riding back to a resort.

He and his wife are thought to have caught the tuk-tuk after an evening in Patong's Soi Bangla walking street.

Kusoldharm Foundation paramedics treated the Australian after he was flung from the tuk-tuk about 9pm near the Otop shopping centre in Rat-U-Tit 200 Pi Road, not far from the Jungceylon shopping mall.

It is believed his wife was travelling with him. He fell as the tuk-tuk turned into a resort entranceway, Patong police said.

Mr Noble was first treated at Patong Hospital then transferred to the better-equipped Bangkok Hospital Phuket in Phuket City, on the other side of the island.

He was reported to be in a coma and undergoing treatment in the intensive care unit.

Large numbers of Australians visit Phuket at this time of the year, the low tourism season on Phuket but winter back home for many.

lunes, 9 de julio de 2012

Phuket Tourist Seriously Hurt in Patong Tuk-Tuk Tumble


The Australian who fell from a Phuket tuk-tuk has been transferred by air ambulance to Bumrungrad International Hospital in Bangkok for treatment for head injuries.
PHUKET: An Australian tourist who tumbled from a Phuket tuk-tuk in the holiday hub of Patong last night is in a coma and fighting for his life today.

Zachary Wade Noble, 30, was seriously injured when he chose to hang from the rear of the local form of public transport while riding back to a resort.

He and his wife are thought to have caught the tuk-tuk after an evening in Patong's Soi Bangla walking street.

Kusoldharm Foundation paramedics treated the Australian after he was flung from the tuk-tuk about 9pm near the Otop shopping centre in Rat-U-Tit 200 Pi Road, not far from the Jungceylon shopping mall.

It is believed his wife was travelling with him. He fell as the tuk-tuk turned into a resort entranceway, Patong police said.

Mr Noble was first treated at Patong Hospital then transferred to the better-equipped Bangkok Hospital Phuket in Phuket City, on the other side of the island.

He was reported to be in a coma and undergoing treatment in the intensive care unit.

Large numbers of Australians visit Phuket at this time of the year, the low tourism season on Phuket but winter back home for many.

lunes, 2 de julio de 2012

Phuket's Drowning Toll: Chinese Visitor Dies on Night Swim at Patong

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Night swimmers gather as efforts are made to revive the tourist last night By Chutima Sidasathian and Alan Morison PHUKET: A 19-year-old Chinese tourist drowned while swimming off Patong beach on Phuket last night despite rescuers' efforts to find him and save him.

A female tourist sounded the alarm on the famous west coast beach about 8.30pm last night. A jet-ski headed out, found the man after a short, desperate search, and brought him back to the beach, where tourists performed cpr in vain.


He was named as Tinqi Li, and he became the seventh tourist drowning on Phuket beaches since May 18 - an alarming number for a year-round beach holiday destination.

He was the second young tourist to drown in that period while swimming on Patong beach at night. American Joshua Shane, 21, drowned during a night swim on June 12.

Phuketwan and water safety experts have called for greater commitment by resorts and local authorities to end the needless drownings. Warning signs in Chinese are rare at Phuket beaches, where the monsoon season brings dangerous ''rip'' currents.

Holidaymakers who come to Phuket for a beach break are often unaware that the sea can be deadly at this time of year - and many resorts are reluctant to tell them in person on check-in, even though a few simple words in the appropriate language would save many lives.

Some Phuket tourism authorities view the drownings as ''natural,'' others would prefer if the tourists were always blamed. More astute authorities understand the need for prevention and are pressing for resorts to behave more responsibly.

Phuket's lifeguards are overwhelmed by the number of tourists who choose to swim even when red warning flags are flying. They say they need the help of resorts and authorities to make sure swimmers realise their lives are at risk.

One resort where guests are warned about swimming on the beaches suggests that guests are told on check-in: ''We've got a great swimming pool here. Please use it. Swim at the beach when the red flags are flying, and you'll die.''

Unless a more responsible attitude prevails, visitors are not likely to come to Phuket for beach holidays in May and June.

Drownings on Phuket May 18-June 30

June 30 Chinese tourist Tinqi Li, 19, drowns while swimming at night at Patong. A jet-ski rider finds him and pulls him back to shore but cpr fails to revive him.

June 19 Unidentified Western man drowns at Nai Harn as red flags fly. Two Chinese tourists, a man and a woman, are rescued. The man is later identified as Rasmus Beyemann, 72, a Dane who had been living on Phuket for five years.

June 12 American university student Joshua Shane, 21, goes missing at Patong on a late-night swim with friends. His body is found on June 14. Another swimmer requires hospital treatment.

June 8 A tourist from Egypt and a tourist from Kuwait, visiting Phuket, go on a whitewater adventure tour north of Phuket with friends. The friends are rescued when a monsoon-boosted stream overturns their raft. The two men drown.

June 2 A young Thai visitor from Bangkok, Austatiwood Prommarat, 18, disappears into the surf at Patong after he and a relative allegedly hang their shirts on a warning red flag before going into the water. The relative is rescued.

May 31 An American kite surfer collapses in the shallows at Nai Harn, Phuket's most southerly beach, and dies soon after. His death may not have been a drowning but possibly a heart attack.

May 30 Russian tourist Denis Korobogatov, 33, appears to be caught by a ''rip'' tide at Karon beach and is dragged to his death.

May 27 Phuket's lifeguards, absent from Phuket beaches for seven weeks because of a contractual dispute, return to daily patrols of Phuket's 13 most popular west coast beaches.

May 20 On a day's outing to difficult-to-access Freedom Beach, between Patong and Karon, Frenchman Stephane Dacosta, 32, disappears into the water. He washes ashore at nearby Kata beach a day later.

May 18 With lifeguards absent from all of Phuket's beaches, Angelo Piazza, 53, disappears into the surf at Karon beach, south of Patong, and drowns.

The figure of seven beach drownings on Phuket between May 18 and June 30 contrasts with just five drownings recorded for the whole of Phuket - including deaths in ponds and canals as well as beaches - in the first four months of the year.

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gravatar The Phuketwan reporting is so slanted it is beyond reproach.

This is a case of a young thrill seeker swimming in the ocean AT NIGHT!

I doubt any level of warning would have stopped them - common sense should have been the stop gap.

To once again blame the resorts and tourism authorities for this drowning is laughable on the part of the reporter.

The seas during the day light hours right now are NOT deadly as the article suggests.

If you are reading this and thinking about not coming to Phuket due to the DEADLY seas, think again.

Common sense and following the advise of the lifeguards is all you need to do to enjoy the sea around Phuket.

Posted by Bill on July 1, 2012 10:30

Editor Comment:

Resorts entice holidaymakers to Phuket during the dangerous monsoon season. Then the tourists suddenly find, as they try to swim, that they have been misinformed. You may kid yourself, Bill, but don't try to kid us. We've talked to the family and friends of the drowned. We know the causes and the solutions. It's not darkness that makes Phuket's beaches more dangerous at night. It's the same problem in daylight - lack of appropriate warnings by the people who entice the tourists here under false pretences. (By the way, you need to look up the meaning of 'beyond reproach.' Best not to use terms you don't understand.)

gravatar These 'night' drownings occur when lifeguards are not on duty, and the beaches are not crowded with tourists who could rapidly raise the alarm.

Perhaps a large warning sign in all languages 'Warning, dangerous thieves on this beach at night' might deter those who want to swim after dark

Simon

Posted by Simon Luttrell on July 1, 2012 10:32

Editor Comment:

Rather than make light of a succession of preventable tragedies, Simon, please tell us what warnings do you give arriving holidaymakers at your establishments.

gravatar [quote]
Rather than make light of a succession of preventable tragedies ...
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Ed, I was actually speaking with all seriousness. At night there are no lifeguards to warn of the dangers of swimming. It seems that many tourists ignore the 'no swimming/rip current' signs. But would they ignore a sign which cautions them that they may be mugged or robbed if they go down to the beach at night? I think not.

What warnings do I give to my hotel guests? Belief me or not, I do ask all arriving guests where they will be staying next, and I warn them about the danger of rip currents and need to listen to the advice of the lifeguards. I also advise warn them about the dangers of the tuk-tuks and black taxis.

Depending on your take about travel warnings, I'm doing no favours to the Thai Tourist Authorities by speaking out to my guests. But I'd rather tell them the honest truth and hopefully greet them as returning guests, rather than reading about their demise in the sea or treatment in the hospital...

Simon

Posted by Simon Luttrell on July 1, 2012 11:06

Editor Comment:

Phuket needs more signage like a hole in the head. The way to warn tourists about beach dangers is to make it compulsory for the danger to be mentioned on descending flights and compulsory for resorts to mention it at check-in - in the appropriate language

gravatar If professional brochures about the nature of the sea, transportation etc. were available I would display them on my reception counter, and I am sure that most hotels would be happy to do the same.
Guests are stressed and tired when they arrive, they want to go straight to their rooms and relax.
At check in they are not interested in listening to endless warnings about swimming, tuk-tuks and other potential problems, and the receptionist's English might be to poor to explain these things.
Therefore brochures is needed.

Posted by Niku on July 1, 2012 13:58

Editor Comment:

Brochures or back-of-the-door warnings are a waste of time. What's needed is a direct verbal warning - in the appropriate language - by a real, live person at check-in. We interviewed survivors who arrived and went for a swim immediately at Karon in the early evening. If there had been a verbal warning, their first hour on Phuket might not have been marred by a death. Brochures are a cop-out. There are too many brochures. If you've attracted guests from China, Russia, Rumania etc to be responsible, the verbal warning must be immediate and it must be in their language. Another brochure at reception? You must be kidding.

gravatar dont they have such a line with bouys on it, which splits the dangerous part of the sea from the safe area to swim at?

Posted by me on July 1, 2012 14:51

gravatar Frankly I think what can be done by hotels have already been done. Hotel staff have been briefed to warn guests about the sea conditions and to heed the flag warnings as part of their introduction to the hotel - yes a lot of information is given at that point in time, resort map, restaurants, facilities, breakfast hours, happy hours and oh by the way, beach warning. Most guest barely listen during check-in. They just want to get to their room after a long flight. So we also put printed warnings out in the rooms incase they missed it during introduction in a variety of languages.
Travel agents we speak to have also done their homework and their part in warning guests. a large chinese web agent gave clear instructions that the guest is always to be aware of sea conditions before going in and to always heed the warnings by local authorities. Flag colours are explained clearly in their language.
Monsoon periods are also clearly indicated in another Aussie travel agent's website and guests are once again told to be careful of conditions and advised to heed warnings.
But sometimes there is really nothing you can do, when the sky is so perfectly blue, the seas perfectly calm on the surface, the guest just don't believe the lifeguard who told them that the sea is dangerous and refused to heed the warning not to get in. What really can you do then?

Posted by May on July 1, 2012 15:34

Editor Comment:

The answer to your question is: A bit more. It's people's lives you are talking about. It's also possible you are speaking on behalf of one hotel and imagining that other hotels do the same. What you can do is make sure that all resorts behave responsibly. We know for a fact that it's not the case. It also wouldn't hurt to have a prominent warning trolley in the doorway headed 'Today's Beach conditions' with the capacity to change the flag color from red NO SWIM to yellow SWIM WITH CAUTION to green SWIM. We repeat: not enough is being done to save lives. Repetitive warnings are the answer - short of closing Phuket's beaches. And if there were that number of drownings on a similar stretch of beaches in Australia in a short period, that's what would happen. Australian visitors are among the least likely to drown. But on occasions, they still do.

gravatar Close the beaches is a very good idea. Who will enforce this?
There are not enough police on the island to do proper police work, let along go running up and down the beaches to warn people off.
One suggestion sounded good, but elaborate it to make lines of bouys anchored out to sea and spread them 25 meters apart, in a designated swimming area. Then the people can return from the sea with their proper names, instead of being called," Bob".

Posted by DunB on July 1, 2012 16:16

Editor Comment:

Fixed rips are usually in the same place but moveable rips do just that, so the buoys may one day be over the place they are not meant to be over . . . Too much work for the lifeguards, which is why it's time for airlines, resorts and local authorities to stop pointing fingers and accept joint responsibility. And when the monsoons arrive next May, the lifeguards need volunteers to reinforce the message at resorts and on the beaches. Or close them.

gravatar Dear Ed, I do not kidding about brochures. Here is some reasons why.
- A very few receptionists speak all Chinese dialects, Russian, Rumanian etc.
- Guests do not want to listen to common information at check in.
- The top of the check in counter in most hotels are not loaded with brochure stands, so the right illustration will catch attention.
- On request tourists will pick up a brochure in their own language and read it when they have time.

Posted by Niku on July 1, 2012 17:28

Editor Comment:

As we've said, Niku, some tourists have gone straight to the beach after check-in and drowned. Life and death issues are not ''common information.'' Resorts that bring people to Phuket in ''the drowning season'' have an obligation to inform them directly, indirectly, and on a daily basis as sea conditions change. If you are bringing groups from individual countries, it's your responsibility to make sure those people are warned in their native tongue. To have brochures for people to read ''when they have time'' is a cop-out.

gravatar Ed... it is a practical idea that all resorts should properly inform each guest arriving. But the fact of the matter is that Hotels and Resorts, in the mainstay, won't do it. It would be tantamount to them saying Phuket is not safe this time of year in the waters (which it is not) but that would mean driving visitors away which means a serious drop income.

You can say all you like, but the truth is Phuket is nearing, if not arrived at, a breaking point where tourists will avoid the place because of the lack of care.

If the Tourism Authorities cared one iota they would make it compulsory for Hotels and Resorts to warn all guest - but this such a poor track-record of implementing anything remotely to aid the tourists, this is unlikely to ever happen.

Posted by Graham on July 1, 2012 18:05

gravatar What about the people who not travel in groups, there is actually a lot of them.
Tourists who just arrive to a hotel and book a room for a few nights. How can they be informed in their own language?
PS. Last words in this debate from me.

Posted by Niku on July 1, 2012 18:17

Editor Comment:

Independent travellers have usually done more research and are less reliant on ''team leaders'' to do their thinking for them. I agree, smaller places have greater difficulty in complying. Perhaps Club Med could record warnings in the 35 languages of its staff members, and make them available to all other resorts? ''Oh, you're from Transylvania? Hang on while I press this button . . . ''

gravatar I commend the tourists who attempted CPR. Trying to revive a dead person is a very traumatic thing.

Posted by Joe on July 1, 2012 22:00

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